by Jérôme Daoust, version 2006/3/21
1. Open Letter
2. Cost
4. Timeline
March 18, 2006: USHPA.
Our association's name (and its acronym) is overdue for a change to honor its multiple disciplines.
Abbreviations, which will be used : HG (Hang-Glider), PG (ParaGlider).
Some advocates of keeping the name in its current HG-only form, may argue that :
· Our association has separate rating designations, separate skill sets.
· Pilots make a clear distinction of their equipment as being either PG or HG. Tell a HG pilot you had a collapse on your HG or had problems inflating it, and they will quickly set you straight.
· Accident reports and statistics make a clear distinction between PG and HG.
We must align ourselves with the common notion that PG and HG are 2 different things.
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PG |
HG |
2/04/2002 |
39.5 % |
60.5 % |
2/27/2003 |
40.1 % (+0.6 over 2002) |
59.9 % |
2/20/2004 |
41.7 % (+1.6 over 2003) |
58.3 % |
2/22/2005 |
42.8 % (+1.1 over 2004) |
57.2 % |
1/10/2006 |
44.4 % (+1.6 over 2005) |
55.6 % |
Note: Members who belong to both divisions are counted as both PG and HG pilots, subscribers are ignored. |
Having an association name biased as HG-only, it conveys : HG rules here. The longer it takes to switch from a HG-only form, the increasingly obvious it becomes that there is resistance to change, for the sake of resistance. This does not put us in good light.
The current HG-only name is a marketing error. See letter by James Bradley.
Let's turn the tables and consider the reverse image :
Our association has a PG-only name. How does a HG pilot feel about it ?
That's the way I feel now. Making our association name non-HG specific, will generate a greater sense of belonging from other disciplines.
This change is overdue as other countries are far in the
lead in revising their names. A few
examples…
Free Flight |
Argentina |
Federación
Argentina de Vuelo Libre |
FAVL |
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Fédération
Belge de Vol Libre |
FBVL |
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Brazil |
Associaçiao
Brasileira de Vôo Livre |
ABVL |
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Fédération
Française de Vol Libre |
FFVL |
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Federazione Italiana di Volo Libero |
FIVL |
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Federação
Portuguesa de Voo Livre |
FPVL |
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Slovene Free Flying Association |
SFFA |
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Asociación
Venezolana de Vuelo Autónomo |
AVVA |
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Hang gliding and
Paragliding |
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Hang-Gliding and Paragliding Association of |
HPAC |
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Danish Hang gliding and Paragliding Association |
DHPU |
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Irish Hang-Gliding and Paragliding Association |
IHPA |
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KHPGA |
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NZHGPA |
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South African Hang Gliding and Paragliding Association |
SAHPA |
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British Hang-Gliding and Paragliding Association |
BHPA |
Let's stop talking about collaboration, let's show it to the world,
Jérôme Daoust, mostly PG, a few solo HG hours.
Discussion :
· Concern : It will cost money to handle the name change and more important issue could be addressed instead.
o Jérôme Daoust, 2004/2/20: Money and time well spent too. Associations, which have done this, seem to have survived the hurdle. If left unresolved, the future cost will keep growing, as this issue will remain and grow. If it is found that this is the main reason for not updating our name, the association should supply the estimated cost, and I personally pledge 250 $US and will help to gather donations toward eliminating this concern. Once the change is made, we will look back and realize we made a bigger deal out of this, than it was worth.
o Canadian cost example. Andre Nadeau, HPAC Transport Canada Liaison, writes (2004/3/2)… What we did in Canada was not changing the name of the existing corporation but creating a new corporation with a different structure and then transferring the holdings of the old corporation into the new one. What the US Association wants to do is simply change its name. In Canada, there is a small fee to change a corporation name - I think $50. There should be something similar in the US. There should also be a number of expenses associated with changing the association name. These include new domain name, new letterhead, stamps and assorted administrative paraphernalia. There may be some marketing costs involved as well but I would not know the details. These costs can add up quickly. We did not have to worry about them in Canada. Overall, the big cost is the hassle associated with filling up the necessary paperwork.
· Jim Macklow, 2004/3/16 : How about the cost of the name change ?
o Mark G. Forbes (Association VP at the time), 2004/3/16 : Minimal, I expect. First off, we're not going to 'scrap' anything. We'll use it up, and order new stuff as needed with the new logo and/or name. We don't keep huge amounts of inventory around, in any case. We probably have less than fifty USHGA-branded shirts and so on, and small amounts of other clatter. The magazine gets printed every month; changing the name there isn't going to cost much. Stuff on the website will get updated as it gets touched for other reasons, but we wouldn't spend a whole lot of effort on that. We're going to have to move the office, so some stuff will have to change anyway. Whether it's across town or to a new city, the address is going to change. For the short term, we can just put a cheap sticker on to cover up the old address and change it to the new one.
· Anticipated costs :
o Jim Macklow, 2004/3/16 : Informing the FAA of our new name (since all the exemptions for tandem "instruction" and aero towing are given to the "USHGA"). Before that, spending time with FAA finding out the process for informing them of the name change... Who in the USHGA office has spare time for this? Oh do the same for the FAI and CIVL, too.
§ Mark G. Forbes (Association VP at the time), 2004/3/16 : Informing FAA isn't a big deal; our exemptions are being revised as Sport Pilot is implemented, and they know who we are whether our initials are "USHGA" or something else.
o Jim Macklow, 2004/3/16 : Changing all the printed matter (forms, magazine, letterhead/envelopes at the main office, etc). New checks from the bank with the new name would be nice, too. Pay a designer for new logo with new name in it. Pay trash company to haul away the old logos, t-shirts, and other valueless swag with the old name on it. (or maybe auction it off on E-bay to the diehard HG pilots wanting a piece of the past).
§ Mark G. Forbes (Association VP at the time), 2004/3/16 : A new logo has been considered before, and we've got both our magazine art director and some volunteers who have put efforts into that area. We need to decide what sort of logo we want, but that's a separate question. Lots of people like that orange meatball, just for recognition reasons.
§ Steve Roti (Honorary Director), 2005/3/6: Almost all USHGA forms are in electronic format and are printed on demand now so there will be little "reprinting cost" for forms.
o Jim Macklow, 2004/3/16 : Pay swag company for new stuff with new logo/name on it. Redo all the advertising so that the newly logo-ed swag is pictured in the ads.
§ Mark G. Forbes (Association VP at the time), 2004/3/16 : As for swag, that's an area we could use some help on. We haven't put any effort into new stuff in the past few years, because it's mostly not much of a moneymaker for us. We make a little bit on it, but not enough to spend a lot of time on new designs and promotion. If you know some hotshot swag masters, we could use some help to update the stuff we have now to something cooler.
o Web site update.
§ Steve Roti (Honorary Director), 2005/3/6: I will volunteer my time to make all necessary changes to the USHGA Web site at no cost.
Listed by personal preference
Acronym |
Full Name |
Comments |
USFFA |
United States Free Flight Association |
Free Flight allows motorized flight, as Free stands for the liberty from requesting flight authorization, not engine-Free. Because some people (looking for a loophole) may think it may relate to a financial attribute (No site/membership fee) we should have a disclaimer. This name is generic, not focused on specific wing types, and follows a pattern demonstrated by other associations. Also good for rigid wings who don't use weight shift for control (like the Swift). |
USHPA |
United States Hang-Gliding and Paragliding Association |
Too focused on the types of wings. What if the list grows in the future ? |
USUGA |
United States Ultralight Glider Association |
Does Ultralight convey the wrong message for our typical choice of wing ? |
USLGA |
United States Light Glider Association |
Acronym is hard to pronounce (not important). |
USFLA |
United States Foot Launched Association |
Foot Launched would include typical tow launches as the feet are still used. Need a provision for those using a dolly ? What about paraplegic pilots who use a cart to launch ? I don't like the word Foot being at the center of attention, sounds like a fetish. |
- - - Not
acceptable below this level - - - |
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USHGPA |
United States Hang-Gliding and Paragliding Association |
Uneven HG and P letter count. The concept (HG, PG) is what matters, not word counting (those saying HG is 2 words, VS one for PG). |
USHGA |
US Human Gliding Association |
The only advantage is to keep the same acronym but it conveys the wrong message : That flight is possible mainly from the human body shape. This would be better suited to skydivers who get some glide from special suits. Maybe that is what a small critter on you back, would be doing as you fall though the air : Human Gliding. |
General comments :
o
Membership and development committee report.
Members present and voting : D. Jebb,
S. Mayer, P. Voight, Bill Bryden, B. Weaver. G. Tradeau, John Greynald, Urs
Kellenberger, M. Forbes, T. Hurst, J. Johnson, D. Sterling, F. Amanutegui, Paul
Gazis, J. Zieset, L Tate.
David Jebb moved that the BOD should solicit and promote a membership debate to
determine what the name of the Association should be. This to be completed on
or before spring 2006. Seconded by Bruce Weaver. Motion approved.
o The Membership and Development Committee appointed John "Tad" Hurst <thurst AT chemnavigator DOT com> to come up with a process for reviewing the question of what the name of the organization should be.
o USHPA Yahoo discussion group. Started 2006/3/18.
o ParaglidingForum.com: US association name
o HG list
o Big Air Forum: US association name + US association - Name change poll - Ends March 1, 2005
o http://www.ushga.org/documents/NameChangeCommittee.pdf
o In favor of a change : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USHGA_CHANGE_NAME
o Against change : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USHGA_KEEP_NAME
o In favor of a change :
§ Jérôme Daoust, today (top of this page).
o Against change :
§ Warren Schirtzinger, 2004/2/27.
§ Mike Vorhis, 2004/2/27 (PDF).
o Final Results. Comments:
§ Jérôme Daoust, 2004/10/6. 401 in favor (52.6 %), 361 against, 1 undecided. This shows that opinions are evenly divided, and that there is significant interest in changing the current name.
§ Steve Roti, 2004/3/4 :
q After three days of polling the association name ballot has drawn votes from 517 members. That's more than the previous two ballots drew after months of polling. (Total votes on previous ballots were: 287 for #1 and 482 for #2.)
q The lead has changed hands between Yes and No a number of times over the last three days. Right now the Yes and No vote totals are only 1% apart. Here are the current totals: No 259, Yes 254, Unspecified 4.
q Most of the votes are along division lines (HG members voting to retain the USHGA name and PG members voting to change it), but approximately 15% of the members have crossed division lines with their votes. The members in Both divisions are equally divided between retaining and changing the name.
q Regarding preferences for a new name among those who voted to change, USHPA has the majority of the votes with USFFA ("Free Flight") holding a substantial minority. There are also some good names submitted by members using the Other option.
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Argument for not changing the name : Looking at the results, the current name is
greatly favored to any single new name.
Reply by Jérôme Daoust … The second
part of the poll is just to get a feel for potential new names. Those in favor of replacing the current name
can, and should, be given the opportunity to unite. The favored new names (USHPA, USFFA) are both better than the
current name.
o Result analysis by Mark G Forbes. Comments :
§ Jérôme Daoust, 2004/3/8. Newest members are clearly in favor (70+%) of a name change
o Final Results. Comments:
§ Jérôme Daoust, 2005/3/1. I'm happy the foot-launched name wasn't popular, the other 2 names are good. :-)
o Letter submitted to the magazine, in favor of a change (Word *.doc format). Prepared in March 2005.
o Final Results. Comments:
o Final Results. Comments:
o Graph of the voting VS time by Tad Hurst.
o Statistical analysis charts by Mark Forbes. 2005/10/5 snapshot: page 1, page 2.